Mike Pence Says It’s Not a Forgone Conclusion That Dems Will Impeach Trump

  16 Dec 2019

Last week, in an exclusive interview on “Justice with Judge Jeanine” Vice President Mike Pence responded to the House Intelligence Committee’s 300-page impeachment report, which listed the Vice President among other senior officials as “either knowledgeable of or active participants in an effort to extract from a foreign nation the personal political benefits sought by the president.”

He told host Jeanine Pirro, that he doesn’t believe “it’s a foregone conclusion” that House Democrats will secure enough votes to pass articles of impeachment.

The report also blames Pence for failing to produce “a single document” requested by panels and blocking the release of part of a transcript of his September 18 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

“Witnesses that actually testified before the Democratic committee actually testified that the subject of investigations never came up either before, during, or after my meeting with President Zelensky in Poland,” Pence told Pirro. “What did we talk about was what President Trump asked me to ask about.”

“When he asked me to go to Poland to represent him, he’d already scheduled a meeting with President Zelensky. And, the president sat me down and said, ‘Look, we are reviewing this aid, but I wanna know what he’s doing about corruption.’ President Zelensky was literally elected in a landslide and the parliamentary election for his party was a landslide on an anti-corruption agenda,” Pence explained. “And, the president said to me: ‘Find out what he’s doing on that — in a sense, you know — check him out, see what you make of him on that.”

Last Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., announced that Democrats would proceed with articles of impeachment against President Trump, declaring that the president’s conduct “leaves us no choice but to act.”

But, when Pirro asked, “Will the president be impeached?”

The VP responded, “I don’t yet know what’s going to happen in the House. I know that Speaker Pelosi has announced articles of impeachment, but I have to tell you — I served in the Congress for 12 years and I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion… that the Democrats will be able to get the votes to pass articles of impeachment.”

The Latest From the Impeachment Hearings

However, Vice President Pence’s comments came before Monday’s contentious Judiciary Committee hearings where lawyers from both parties sparred in blunt terms over whether President Trump indeed abused his power in dealings with Ukraine — while committee members clashed repeatedly over a process, Republicans decried as a “rubber stamp.”

The hearing — which consisted of lawyers for both parties essentially making their closing arguments, including by showing video clips of key statements from witnesses, Trump and others — comes as the committee is expected to vote in the coming days on articles of impeachment against Trump.

The hearing sets off a pivotal week as Democrats march toward a full House vote expected by Christmas. In drafting the articles of impeachment, Pelosi is facing a legal and political challenge of balancing the views of her majority while hitting the constitution’s bar of “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Trump and his allies acknowledge he will likely be impeached in the Democratic-controlled House, but they also expect acquittal next year in the Senate, where Republicans have the majority. A vote to convict requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate, where Republicans hold 53 of 100 seats. Regardless of what happens in the lower chamber, it is unlikely that any Republican senators would cross party lines and vote to remove Trump from office.